Jacked & Canned
Jacked & Canned
Inside The Paint: NBA Offseason Moves
We reconnect after an extended absence to discuss the basketball landscape and our recent sporting adventures.
• OKC Thunder won the NBA Finals 4-3 against Indiana, positioning themselves well for the future by extending Chet Holmgren and Jalen Williams
• LeBron James opted into his $52.6 million Lakers contract amid rumors of tension with the organization
• Bradley Beal was bought out and will sign with the Clippers, joining Kawhi Leonard and James Harden
• We attended a Big Three league game featuring former NBA players, including Dwight Howard and Lance Stephenson
• Ice Cube impressed us with his genuine passion as the league's founder, watching courtside rather than from an owner's suite
• Our Massachusetts Pirates indoor football league experience was surprisingly entertaining despite the lopsided score
• Justin Verlander is chasing 300 career wins but sits at 0-7 this season despite a reasonable 4.87 ERA
• NFL season is approaching quickly with preseason games starting July 31st
• TJ Watt received a record-breaking non-QB contract extension with the Steelers worth $123 million over three years
Join us in upcoming episodes for NFL predictions, quarterback rankings, and our weekly game picks as football season approaches.
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Speaker 3:Jacked and Canned a half. Yes, I haven't had time to record a fucking podcast. Man, how you doing buddy? Dude doing good, man, doing really good. It's been a while since we've been here in jackton, can you probably thinking oh my gosh, they're done, they're gone, they're retired. No, we didn't retire. We wish we retired. We're back at it. Football season's almost here. It definitely doesn't feel like football season in connecticut and massachusetts because it's like 95 degrees every single day now it's so weird, john.
Speaker 2:I legitimately can't remember if the last time we recorded if the nba finals was still ongoing or if it had just ended. Well, I legitimately don't remember at this point. I thought I probably should have looked it up, because obviously I should be sharing thoughts about how the finals ended if that were the case that I did not get to get anything out there and I just don't remember what our last episode had on it.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:I remember where we left off.
Speaker 3:We left off and we did not talk about the end result of the nba finals. We did have a couple of podcasts during the nba finals, because the nba finals, first of all, is like a month long.
Speaker 2:It's so pretty yeah, they do three gay or uh three days in between games for most of them, and that happened to be a seven game series, so it did take fucking forever.
Speaker 3:Oh, it takes forever for it. Not complaining, by the way.
Speaker 2:No, it's a blast. I love it. I mean it's literally, I think, my favorite. I mean man, that and the Super Bowl. They're so close for me as far as like what I enjoy the most and I don't mind that it ends up being a very long process in cases like this. I thought going into that thing it was OKC and five Obviously OKC. At this point now that we're about a month after it ended, okc did win that final four to three Kind of crushed him in game seven. Honestly, game seven wasn't particularly close as game six. Indiana kind of swamped the shit out of OKC to force a Game 7.
Speaker 2:But the point of it being is OKC. They are so perfectly well lined up in the offseason so far. They've already extended the contracts on both Chet Holmgren and Jalen Williams, so they're pretty well set up for success. At some point they're going to have to address some financial issues. You're not going to be able to keep guys like having all of this combo of having Alex Caruso, isaiah Hardenstein, lou Dort, aaron Wiggins, even Isaiah Joe, like you're not going to be able to have all these dudes, like you're going to have to ship some of them off and kind of just keep retooling around those three guys, but they still have a million draft picks, so they're they're going to be able to keep feeding guys in through their system and they they're obviously good at growing players and developing players. So I I think that okc is very well positioned for success.
Speaker 2:John, we do actually have a little bit of breaking news, because we're obviously going to have to talk about the NBA offseason and where that's gone so far. But literally since we've sat down here, it has been announced that Dame Lillard is heading back to Portland. He got bought out by Milwaukee. He will not be playing, more likely than not, in this next season, but he will be signing to go back to Portland. So kind of cool to see Portland as a young roster. There's a whole lot of pieces there that you're hoping kind of pan out at some point. They're going to probably have to move off that Jeremy grant contract but outside of him they've already done a lot of the work of getting the good young talent in there and now Dame can kind of come in and foster the next generation, which I think is cool for him. Yeah, because it that shit wasn't working in milwaukee not working at all over there did you see the news yesterday with bradley beal, by the way?
Speaker 2:I did not go ahead officially he has been bought out will be signing with the Clippers. So I saw. You know Kendrick Perkins tends to just kind of talk for the sake of talking. I saw an ESPN headline that he made a claim that this does not change anything for the Clippers. Keep in mind that Bradley Beal it's been shit on just because of how aggressive the contract was. It's not that Bradley Beal was a terrible player.
Speaker 2:They're essential 10 guys that are going to be in their rotation as long as they do stay healthy, and that is a big if with guys like James Harden, kawhi Leonard, bradley Beal on that roster. But you're looking at a starting lineup of those three guys. You got zubats who's, for whatever reason, like the yokich stopper of the nba or the closest one to one anyway. Um, yeah, you've got nick batum coming off your bench actually contributing. They made a move to get john collins. He'll be in that starting five and then their. Their bench is too Great defense all last or last postseason, as was Batum. They've got they got Brooke Lopez in there to back up Zubats, like they made a lot of really good moves here and all of a sudden some of the guys that were having to play real minutes that weren't really big contributors might not actually even be a part of the rotation come playoff time. So I think that the Clippers actually, if healthy, are one of the more dangerous teams going into next season. I just never trust the health of Kawhi Leonard.
Speaker 3:I know you don't. I know it's high on Kawhi Leonard staying healthy in the postseason, which it turns out, he ended up staying healthy.
Speaker 2:This was the first time since like 2019, that that shit happened. Yeah it actually happened, like it was cool. Like it was cool to see. I just I fell for it for like two years and then for the next three I was like now fuck this, I'm not doing this again and I'm not going gonna do it next year either I'm just saying, if he does, that's a dangerous team oh, absolutely something else too that had the nba world buzzing a little bit.
Speaker 3:There is the summer league. You're not always going to hear about the summer league making people buzz and headlines there, but cooper flag, in particular cul coming out on his first game, People were kind of harsh on him. Second game that he came out there 31 points, four rebounds, one assist, one block, 10 for 20 from the field. Not bad for field goal percentage there. So about 50%.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they shut him down after that game too. They only let him play for the first two and then they shut him down so he can be healthy for the regular season. Keep in mind that Dallas team at this point I mean there's all the NBA moves to talk about but they did pick up D'Angelo Russell so they will have a starting point guard that's at least reliable going into this next season, considering that Kyrie is going to be out for probably the entirety of the year, if not almost all of it. So, yeah, it is, the kicker is too right. So obviously, I mean I don't think I can avoid the elephant in the room. We're going to have to talk about the whole LeBron James offseason, because that's my dude. So, long story, short breakdown of this right.
Speaker 2:Four days before the final game against the Timberwolves, where the Lakers got eliminated, the Lakers ownership group, gm coach everybody was there. They had a beautiful little dinner with Luka to discuss their plans for the future that primarily lean towards 2027 being the year where they're making their moves. Obviously, that doesn't really help for LeBron because he's not really planning on being there for that long. Lebron opts into his contract and there was no announcement. That's usually something that the team announces. The team did not announce that. That came from LeBron's people, that he was opting into that contract and it seems as if there is a schism between LeBron and the Lakers which has led to so many goddamn things. Lebron goes home every offseason to go train in Akron, ohio, because it makes him happy he gets to go home. People blew that into. He's definitely trying to get into Cleveland, blah, blah, blah and basically the rumor mill has started up over the course of the last few weeks. It's died down a little bit from where we're coming at today because LeBron has essentially declined interviews about this and has additionally kind of put out the message nope, business as usual, like I'm just going in the next season doing what I always do. So it seems that it's died down a little bit. But there were rumors for Cleveland to go back there, where he'd be a perfect fit right now. But again, the thing thing is is nobody wants to trade for his 52.6 million dollar contract for this year. The only way that I think another team is going to acquire lebron james is if the lakers get fed up with him so much so that they just buy out his contract and just say fuck it, we'll just pay the money this year and you can just go not be a part of this team. And I don't think that's going to happen because, again, that's a lot of money to swallow.
Speaker 2:But in terms of the places that have been considered Cleveland, where he'd be a great fit he could step into the three role. So they they could have a starting lineup of Darius Garland all-star. Donovan Mitchell all-star, all all-NBA, LeBron James greatest one of two players of all time. Evan Mobley all-star. Jared Allen, former all-star. They would have an awesome starting five and they would have still a decent bench with DeAndre Hunter, alonzo Ball, sam Merrill, dean Wade. They've got pieces there, so that would have been cool. But again, they're not going to trade two, three of those pieces to be able to acquire LeBron, because then all of a sudden, your depth is shot. Dallas, kind of the same thing.
Speaker 2:Right, you think about him playing with his boys, kyrie and Anthony Davis. He's won a championship with both of them. How cool would that be for him to finish his career. Problem is, for them to acquire him they'd have to put some package deal together that has, like PJ Washington, daniel Gafford, max Christie and Quentin Grimes in it and it's like, well then they have no bench.
Speaker 2:Like, yeah, it'd be cool that he'd be playing with. Like you know, for even this next season it really wouldn't matter, because Kyrie wouldn't be there. So what, like what's he think he's going to win a title without Kyrie there? I don't think so. So it would essentially be in a year from now that he'd be coming back, and it would be Kyrie D'Angelo, russell LeBron, anthony Davis, derek Lively, russell LeBron, anthony Davis, derek Lively.
Speaker 2:And then, you know, if he were to just wait a year and do that, then there would also be PJ Washington, dan Gafford, quentin Grimes, these other guys that make up the rest of that roster. So we looked to some of the other ones. There was a thing with Golden State about trading Jimmy Butler straight up for him, and I'm like I don't know why either team's doing that. Like I know that LeBron's always wanted to play with staff. Steph seems like he would be totally cool playing with LeBron, like and all of it seems like it would be cool shit. But like the the warriors don't have a center. Like if LeBron's going to be dealing with the same fucking issue he was last year, like no, that's not going to work.
Speaker 3:He's not going to do that?
Speaker 2:No, we're not doing that. There was talks about him being traded over to Denver to go play with Jokic and I'm like they're already struggling with depth, like I don't even know who the hell they can put into a deal right now. What Aaron Gordon and Jamal Murray? Then who else is playing for you? Like it's just going to be lebron and yokich out there with a whole bunch of dudes. It's gonna be a bunch of me and yous out there. They couldn't hit anything other than a sweet elbow jumper. I had going on.
Speaker 3:I uh that was a sick. Yeah, that was sick too. We'll talk.
Speaker 2:I know I had to leave the elbow because I'm like I can't, I'm not doing the cheat code on this. Clearly, my elbow strokes. Nice right now, yeah, but but and then there was another team in there too. Oh, the Clippers. The Clippers were the other one that were in play and I'm like what the hell are they trading? I know they have a lot of depth, but it takes a lot of depth to build up the $52.5 million. This is not something where it's like, oh, we'll just put these two guys together, that'll. That'll clear it out. It's like, no, you gotta either piece. You gotta either have one of the big dudes or you gotta include, like basically, all the small dudes. So those were the rumor mill play. Oh, and the knicks, but that one.
Speaker 2:I don't know why everybody in the knicks fan base thinks that lebrron is dying to be a Knick. He could have done it in 2010. He opted not to. He opted to go to Miami instead. I don't really know what the thought process is there. Everybody's convinced that LeBron and the Knicks were supposed to be a thing and it just never happened. I think it just didn't happen for a reason LeBron doesn't want to go be a Knick, didn't?
Speaker 2:happen for a reason lebron doesn't want to go be a nick point of being. This nba offseason just had a lot of fun twists and turns and the you know latest laker news is that, uh, apparently luke is not trying to make his extension happen super fast, so there's worry that he's just going to leave after next year too, and then they'll have neither LeBron nor Luca. So, yeah, the Laker organization right now is kind of finding a way to fuck a lot of stuff up, and I know that they were able to bring in DeAndre Ayton, so we'll have a center next year. Hopefully he cares. That's kind of where we're at. Deandre Ayton struggles to care, which is kind of a problem.
Speaker 3:Well, showing to the Lakers and knowing that the team that they have over there, hopefully it's a new spark for them. I mean, LA is a completely different world.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean, I hope so. It's really hard for me to look at DeAndre Aydin and be like, yes, yes, that's what I wanted. I really so badly wanted either Walker Kessler or finding a way to get Dan Gafford out of Dallas. But after what we did pulling off the Luka deal and then everybody shitting on him for it I think they would not have given us Gafford for anything reasonable. We would have had to have sent them, like Austin Reeves and some shit, to be able to get them. But those were the two centers that I thought would fit best with what it is that we're looking to get.
Speaker 2:I would have even taken clink capella in all seriousness, because even though he's older, he, the young version of him, is exactly what we need. So even the old version of him, I'm like, ah, I think he might have enough. Like we don't need a great center, we just need a competent dude, I guess just runs the court, catches lob passes and defends the rim. It's all we really need. We don't even need him to be an excellent rebounder. Lebron and luca do way more rebounding than most forwards and guards do. So yeah, regardless, we have DeAndre Aydin. Hopefully he goes 15-10 tonight.
Speaker 3:Yeah, hopefully Colts sticking with basketball here. Me and Colts had an awesome opportunity to go see a league out there that you may or may not have heard of before. It's called the Big Three Ice Cube yeah, TD Garden, which, by the way, Ice Cube is even cooler in person than he is on TV. I don't know how that's possible, but it's so true Seeing his kind of hype up before the games actually kicked off, and how real and authentic he was.
Speaker 2:I love that he said, like on the court, that that he wasn't. He wasn't in a press box somewhere like in an owner's suite, nothing like that, he. He just plopped himself literally in a fold-out chair on the court.
Speaker 3:Yeah yeah, he was right there court side and he was just a fan. You didn't see him yelling or whatever. He was just a fan. You didn't see him yelling or whatever. He was just straight up a fan. A good example of that after the first game that we watched and we found out the big three league, you got to win by two.
Speaker 2:I don't know the exact parameters of what that means yeah, it was first to 50, but you have to win by two.
Speaker 3:So if it's 50 to 49,.
Speaker 2:you have to keep playing, yeah.
Speaker 3:And you just see Ice Cube over there sitting down in his chair holding up you gotta win by two by two by two, just totally fanboying out, wasn't doing it like a commissioner commissioner style of being super serious.
Speaker 3:He was having fun with it. But, coles, I bring up the big three because that was so much fun, that was, uh, what an absolute blast. Now for those that might be hesitant on the big three league because it's not the nba stars of current day, coles, what would you say to those particular potential fans that might be on the fence of checking out a big three game?
Speaker 2:for one. You're gonna recognize the majority of players if you've been watching the game, for you know like it.
Speaker 2:But let's just say at least 10 years like that's fair yeah, because at that point you've at least built up enough of a relationship with the guys that have recently retired that you're gonna know the names. Um, some of them are are kids that really barely got a shot at the nba or maybe never even really made an nba team, right, yeah, um, so there is some injection of youth there, but, you know, obviously the talent level is a little bit less than like you know. We saw dwight howard out there and, like you could just tell, dwight howard, by size, is just absolutely fucking massive and it's like, holy shit, like I've been watching this dude play since like he got drafted in 2005 and still, or 04, or whenever he got drafted, and still he looks like that. Like I always said, he he kind of looks like a robot because his shoulders, like have the most definition that I've ever seen and it's specific to the shoulder where that it cuts to the arm below. It's like I've never Well, it's not that I've never seen anybody else built like that, but it's very rare in the NBA that you see a dude that's that built.
Speaker 2:And Dwight Howard is that built and that big, like that motherfucker 6'11", 2'. Whatever he is Because I don't even buy the weights that they list these players at and he's setting picks on guys and there is no getting around a Dwight Howard pick. If Dwight has the ball under the rim, you're already fucked. Just get out of the way. And it was really cool to see that in person. That was something that I had never really gotten the chance to see.
Speaker 3:Oh, it was awesome, and the way that the Big Three sets it up too. They play half court and we didn't have bad seats at all. First of all, in the garden you can't really have a bad seat. It's kind of small enough, I guess, but big enough at the same time.
Speaker 2:where it could be a struggle sometimes with hockey because it's hard to follow like the tiny puck from yeah, from like nosebleed area, but yeah, for for basketball you can tell exactly what's going on like that. That was very cool, yeah it was awesome.
Speaker 3:I just want to give a little update here on the league leader. Current day, july. Whatever the hell, it is July 17th. Michael Beasley is leading the big three in points, so he's on top which he had.
Speaker 2:It's not incredibly shocking, you remember? You remember he just kind of decided hey, I'm gonna be michael beasley and take all the shots for the rest of this game, like we. We watched him just kind of come in there and just keep putting up shots. It was like, okay, yep, you're still michael beasley. Uh, he is awesome.
Speaker 3:One player that blew my mind and I knew about him in the nba, but I didn't really watch a ton of games was lance stevenson. The guy is a total dick, like he just he is.
Speaker 2:Oh my god I was happy that you were able to pick up on that. He was in a fight after every fucking play and I'm like, yeah, no, that's lance. That's what lance does like single one.
Speaker 3:One of them almost looked like it was about to go down. They could grab the guy by the freaking jersey, right by the throat, and I'm like damn dude.
Speaker 2:The kicker is like Lance Stevenson's. Like within an inch of your height. He's either 6'4", 6'5", 6'5" and he doesn't weigh as much as you. And I'm thinking to myself I'm like some of these dudes out here we're talking. There's a couple guys that, like I remember seeing Reggie Evans out there. I'm like he's like 6'9 and 270 or some shit, like I don't think you need to be fucking around with all these guys, and actually they might have been on the same team. But there were some big dudes out there that I'm like, lance, I don't know you wouldn't be getting yourself into all this.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I don't know either, but man, he is entertaining to watch though, especially in a league like the Big Three. I will definitely tune in again to watch the game. Yeah, no.
Speaker 2:I will legitimately. I will now actually take time out of my days to watch some big three on TV too. I'm like that was way cooler than I expected.
Speaker 3:Same here. And just a shout out for everybody too, for the league here, If you want to watch the games. It sounds like vice airs one game a week.
Speaker 3:And CBS had some of the ones has the other three games throughout the week, but they also air on replay all of the games on youtube for free. So that's pretty dope how you can pull them up right on youtube. So if you're curious about the big three league, check it out. I know that they got a new fan out of me. I didn't expect that game day experience coves like at all. It is so unique, it cool, it's different. The halftime shows give them props.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, All that shit was cool.
Speaker 3:It's so cool, so me and Coles were talking about it. We got to try to plan it out where we can go every year when they come to Boston. I think that would be a fun event to go out and go see the game, but they only come once a year. That's the hard part, well john.
Speaker 2:We also had another experience about a week prior to that where we got to go check out an indoor football league game. John talked me into going with him to an indoor football league game. We got to watch. You're massachusetts, pirates are pirates are yeah whoever the fuck they play, and I don't even remember at this point yeah, we were pacing at one point to be up like 80 to 6 at the end of the game oh yeah, it was a complete blowout.
Speaker 3:Let's just say the team that they were going against in the name is escaping me.
Speaker 2:Was it Indiana? I feel like it was something Midwest.
Speaker 3:Oh, here it is the Iowa Barnstormers.
Speaker 2:Yep, that's it the Barnstormers who stormed. Zero barns.
Speaker 3:Yeah, they did not have a great outing whatsoever. The final score of that game that me and colbs went to it was massachusetts pirates 66 and the iowa barnstormers 35.
Speaker 2:Now that game sounds a hell of a lot closer than what it actually was I was gonna say at one point I think we were up like 40 to 3 like they they did actually start putting something together. In the second half they did, and johnny and I were in the spot because johnny was putting in a lot of effort for this. Johnny picked me up from work, drove me out to lowell, massachusetts, which is about what, do you think? It was like an hour, 40 give or take yeah, probably hour, 30 hour yeah.
Speaker 2:We watched this game and we're debating on what our leave time is going to be, because he brought me back home and then drove himself back home, which is about an hour and 15 hour 20 for me. So John put in like a solid five, six hours worth of driving for this experience. Just this is why I was like sure, if you really want me to go with you, I'll go with you. I did have more fun than I anticipated. I will tell you that it was not something that I I went in with any expectation for. I was like this is gonna be dumb as fuck and it was at least watchable. It was able to just pick apart that most of everybody was fucking terrible and the one guy that looked like he was actually built like he could play football couldn't play football oh, he was an animal.
Speaker 2:He was big, though, yeah he said like what was it? Number 17 or some shit like that? Remember in numbers too, so yeah, yeah, I don't even remember what the name was for him. I just remember his number. It was like shit, that dude's huge and yeah, no, not anything positive from a contribution standpoint. He didn't do anything.
Speaker 3:He was absolutely massive and me and Coles when we first got there we kind of did a couple laps around the place, beautiful place where they play at, by the way, in Lowell.
Speaker 2:A beautiful area in lull, massachusetts gotta give lull a quick shout out. Yeah, I I'm still shocked with how nice lull looked. The last time I was in lull it looked like a fucking dumpster fire yeah, it was awesome over there.
Speaker 3:So we get over to the game and we sat down. We had awesome seats a couple rows back from. I guess you could call it the field or the barrier, whatever.
Speaker 2:Yeah we were at field level like that was really fucking cool. Like at one point because you know, naturally we were always on kickoff team I kept just seeing the same dude in front of us all the time, like the entire first half, and I'm like holy shit, this dude, 88 harvey. I could jump out right now and tackle him like I'm that close, like he's within a leap distance, for damn, this is.
Speaker 3:It's pretty cool yeah, they can go right over the little railing right there into the seats if they get tackled hard enough, so it's a really cool experience. But the moment we sat down we saw that one player like he's the real deal turns out. We didn't even see him, no deal. But uh, awesome, it is good competition still.
Speaker 2:I mean, it's competitive as hell and I couldn't believe the size of some of those guys, and I mean it in the reverse way of what you might be thinking. In the audience, john knows what I'm talking about. There were a few of these guys that honestly, I think that if you looked at me and then you looked at them, I would probably be shorter than all of them. But you would probably say, oh yeah, no, Colts is bigger. I was stunned by that. I'm like how are these tiny-ass dudes playing football? It just does not compute for me, Like what.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, yeah, Colts. Give everybody a quick snapshot. Who's on top right? Ifl edition all right, uh, eastern conference over there, the quad city, steam wheelers, then the green bay, blizzard, jacksonville sharks, tulsa, oilers, mass Freight, iowa, barnstormers, colts they still only have one win on the season Iowa, that's since we've seen them. They're 1-13 on the year. Colts, western Division, the Bay Area Panthers sitting on top over there, 11-3. Looks like a pretty good team.
Speaker 2:Arizona Rattlers We've got to figure out if they've got playoffs. They do, yeah. Playoffs they do, yeah, they do. I'm thinking like if lowell has a little home game, that might be, uh, that actually might be worth checking out, I it looks like tough to say.
Speaker 3:Well, there's two games left in the year, so they still got a chance. But the mass pirates are not officially eliminated from playoff contention, but they are extremely close to being eliminated and they are, uh, sitting at seven, probably no home games uh, probably no playoff game at all. They need something to go their way, yeah. So, uh, they're sitting at a dead even 500. I'm curious what some of the games would look like with some of those top ranked teams, though I'm kind of thinking the same thing.
Speaker 2:I wonder if they look like they can actually play football. The dude on Iowa, he went left like 90% of his throws and most of them also were to the audience. They were not an actual physical player. But yeah, in all seriousness, I'm kind of curious too, because it was really fun to be able to pick out how bad some of the guys were and just catch a couple of like nice traits, like we had that one dude that I'd like, if nothing else, like a sweet agile juke move. But there wasn't a lot of great stuff out there, and so I'm thinking to myself. I'm like what are some of the top tier teams if they have some guys that you know could be john, you could watch them in the ufl next year, you know. Oh, I'm sure that they there.
Speaker 3:Probably are some players out there.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like you take I still have that voice, dude, in my head. You're massachusetts pirates touchdown.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, well, it's still just there well, he's gonna haunt you and luckily you can crack a cold one to forget all about it. So be right back, ladies and gents, cracking a cold one. Colts coming up next, because Colts is your Massachusetts. Pirate sounded like a macho man thing. Pirates Sounded like a macho man thing.
Speaker 2:Pirates. Welcome back. Now it's time for Crackin one with colbs. Welcome back to cracking a cold one with colbs the segment where I accidentally cracked the beer before the one I was supposed to crack. So now I've just cracked two beers and I have two open beers in front of me. So, john, both yeah, I got some drinking to do buddy, so uh why don't you tell the? Audience. You find fun, interesting or otherwise hold up real quick.
Speaker 3:Is that the first time I'm cracking a cold one with coles? History that you, you crack too.
Speaker 2:No, I I've probably done it about four or five times, I've just never actually announced it. I think it's just because of not recording. In a few weeks where I'm legitimately sitting here, I'm like, okay, crack this beer for cracking a cold one. And then I'm like, oh fuck, that's right.
Speaker 3:The whole aesthetic is that I cracked the beer at the beginning of the segment. Yeah, true. Well, typical fashion of me, I guess I'll be in the otherwise bracket.
Speaker 3:I always got to name it, even though we have what? A month off. Yep, no need to. Yeah, it's okay, it's our tradition.
Speaker 3:Something that was interesting for me here or otherwise bracket the big three-league game was some of the coaching staff members that they had gary payton rocking a larry bird uniform. That was so cool. So, coles, I actually looked it up afterwards full disclosure. I watched the last two games on youtube in full and they ended up interviewing Gary Payton and when he was asked why did you wear a Larry Bird Jersey?
Speaker 3:Not word for word in his response, but something to the extent of well, I mean, he's the best, like, he's the greatest. They're like, yeah, but you played for the Celtics for a little while. He's like, yeah, but it just wouldn't have the same impact. He's like Larry Bird is the best. Yeah, got to wear his jersey. Boston. I'm like hell, yeah, man, that was pretty cool. Another thing I want to bring up real quick, and this might have been your cracking cold one segment, I don't know, so if I'm stealing it from you, sorry. Julius Irving is the coolest, most smooth dude that I have ever seen and I saw him from a distance in a chair, like sitting and talking to players and mingling. But he is so smooth, from his outfit to his demeanor, to when he would hit the challenge button or the one-on-one competitions that they would break down there yeah, he just had swag while he did it.
Speaker 3:Cobes filled me in a little bit more on Julius Erving. I wasn't too familiar with him, obviously. I've heard the name just from following sports and everything throughout my life. But it was really cool to see someone like that there and the ovation that he got from all the fans in the garden which, by the way, we didn't mention this. I don't know for sure, I didn't look at the attendance or anything, but probably 8,000, 9,000 people Coles Fair to say that was at the garden.
Speaker 3:I was thinking it was probably about nine. Yeah, and just the ovation that he got there was awesome. So, yeah, you know, what is not awesome that goes in the otherwise bucket is the beer prices at the garden. So if you haven't been to the garden, yet get ready to spend some serious money. They're about $20 for a beer and they're about $10 for a NA which Cobes? No, I swapped over to that after and yeah, yeah, so the garden's expensive. A slice of pizza, even though it was the size of probably my whole.
Speaker 2:Uh, it was the big ass slice of pizza. Yeah, yeah and it was good uh, but that was like 15 16 bucks yeah so, oh my god, I forgot that, like I I thought I mean it was a kicker enough, like when we were coming away from lunch and I'm like how the fuck was this like 71 dollars, but we, like we had a burger, a sandwich and a beer. Like how did, how did?
Speaker 2:it cost much. But yeah, no, in the garden is so significantly worse and well, I shouldn't say worse. Look, I love the garden. It is a really cool, totally worth it, even though it costs something, it's worth it.
Speaker 2:Just get ready to spend a few hundred bucks because, like you're trying to actually enjoy a three you know two and a half hour experience of watching a game, you're gonna end up putting in some money, unless you came like well fed and you just don't drink um, which you know that might be fun for some people. That's generally not how I enjoy my sports.
Speaker 3:That's awesome.
Speaker 2:That could have been your own cracking segment right there. No, I've been contemplating. I don't remember if I told the story of when I went to the Basketball Hall of Fame two years ago. I feel like I did.
Speaker 3:I was thinking again who cares?
Speaker 2:Yeah, sure.
Speaker 3:Winning podcast.
Speaker 2:Yeah, maybe we have new people out there. Exactly, if we do Wait, wait, wait, wait.
Speaker 3:It'll be the same ones that tune in from that podcast episode a couple of years ago to this one right here.
Speaker 2:Anything in the last two years?
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah yeah, yeah, anyways, go ahead the last few years.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah, anyways, go ahead. So in uh, 2023, michelle and I went to springfield mass so we could check out the basketball hall of fame. I, as a massive nba fan, have never been, so this was like. This was like a dream come true for me, and we're we're fucking around with all the different stuff in there. They got like shaq's shoe print on the floor so you can see like how much bigger his foot is than yours, which is really fun because you know, nobody actually has Shaq's size feet except Shaq and uh and some of the guys in the WWE. They have Shaq's size feet, but uh, and then they've got like wingspan you can go compare your wingspan of Giannis and just all sorts of like cool shit in there. I remember just a few months before I went was when Donovan Mitchell put up 71 in a game and they already had the jersey he was wearing in there and I was like, oh, no shit, that's actually really fucking cool, especially since he's not technically in the Hall of Fame yet. Like, yes, one day he will be, but it's not right now. So I thought that was really cool. They had a whole room for kobe, who obviously passed away in 2020. So they, uh, they just had a dedicated space just for kobe, which was really cool. They, uh, they I took pictures of everything that had to do with lebron. Obviously they had one of his high school jerseys in there and I was like I will bring that home with me, thank you, and uh, just all sorts of cool shit. But what we didn't realize is that we, over the summer, what they do is they have somebody that's affiliated with the game of basketball there, they do a little interview in front of the audience and then they do a meet and greet. We happen to be there on dr j day. I had no idea, um, so we wait in this line. And, granted, they did a pretty good job of moving the line, but I mean, this was a massive line and michelle and I are towards the end of it. Like it's a little ways to go.
Speaker 2:But she knew I was excited because I enjoy watching that. Like I've gone back and watched 1983 finals games and shit like that. Like that's fun for me, like I really like that. Yeah, I actually oddly spend my summers watching games from like somewhere between the 60s and 80 and 80s, because I pretty much caught everything 90s going forward. So I'm like, yeah, let me just get myself caught up. Actually, I do take it back to one extent. I basically don't watch anything between about 73 and 1980. For whatever reason, I just don't really care as much about that era. There's a lot of people that do. But it was an era in which Kareem and Rick Barry and Pete Maravich were the dominant players, which not that those are bad players by any means I just have less interest.
Speaker 2:Once you get into the 80s, you get your magic, your bird mj, you get those guys.
Speaker 2:And in the 70s and or the early, early 70s and back in the 60s, you've got will, you've got still early kareem, you've got oscar robertson, got jerry west, all those stupid celtics teams with all the other good players. So I enjoy watching all that shit. So dr j for me is a lot of fun and actually I guess when I say the 70s said dr j was in that too. He was, he had a really good team and I think it was 76 77, but uh, with uh george mckinnis as uh his secondary guy. But we get up to the front of the line and I'm super excited to meet Dr J and I go and I shake his hand. By the way, dr J and John, I pointed it out to you so you can see it live, even from a distance. He has the biggest fucking hands I've ever seen on a human, which makes all the sense in the world. That's probably why he had such great control with the ball around the rim.
Speaker 3:Well, I around the rim. Um well, I remember you saying that a while back and I remember we were just sitting there and it just hit me and I'm like holy shit, colbs, I'm like you're right, that dude has massive hands and you're like yeah, see no he was kind of far back too yeah, yeah, we were a ways back there and we could still see how clearly large his hands were.
Speaker 2:The kicker is michelle says to me in line. She says do not go break his fucking hand, colby. And I'm like I get up there and I shake his hand, I'm like I turn back to her. I'm like you thought I was gonna break this thing.
Speaker 2:Yeah I don't think you stand a chance at no I think I squeezed it as hard as I could and I don't think anything would happen to him, like he has massive hands yeah and uh, and then we he sits down on a stool so he can be, you know, somewhat closer to our height, and he takes a picture with us and michelle's michelle says to him.
Speaker 2:She goes is it okay if I put my arm around you for this picture? He's like, yeah, yeah, absolutely go ahead. And she puts her arm around him. We get a picture, and then he goes okay for this next one. Is it okay with you if I put my arm around you? What is so fucking smooth? And I like, honestly, I there's a picture of me as that picture is taken, where I'm just like a little bit off to the side just laughing. So I'm like dude, babe, if you want to go back to the hotel with him, I'll get myself home Like that's Dr Jack, that's the smoothest man I've ever seen in person. I was so fucking happy. I was like he lived up to every expectation. He gave a great interview to everybody that was there. He even talked about some of the things that I was curious about. He talked about the transition from the ABA to the NBA, what that was like for him, how the experience went, how he kind of swapped teams ABA.
Speaker 3:What the hell is that?
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, there used to be an American Basketball Association that had teams like the Nets and the Spurs. Oh yeah, there was a merger that happened and uh, once that that's what brought dr j to the nba. If you combine his aba and nba stats, he's like much closer to the top of a lot of the rankings. Then you will find him if you look at just nba rankings, because a lot of his career was spent in a different league, essentially.
Speaker 3:If they acquired him, they should just merge the stats into one.
Speaker 2:Yeah, there are certain places that will do that. You can look at what those combined stats are to be able to give a real life comparison, and that there's a lot of places that do that now too. I really I think specifically he is one of the reasons why, because Dr J is known as one of the basketball greats of all time, but he didn't enter the NBA until like 1975 or six or something like that. Like he spent some of his career not in the NBA.
Speaker 2:Yeah, also, uh, john, I I was gonna say to you, because I know you're a little bit less familiar with them, it's something to just get you excited at some point. You don't have to go back and watch a full game, like I will, but go just youtube dr j's top 10, and there there is something uh, from like nbacom to youtube or something that has a top 10 plays of Dr J's career and you'll kind of get a sense of what Dr J was like on the court and it is an actual good watch. It only takes like four or five minutes. It's not a super long video because they didn't have announcers yelling bang back then, so it's a little bit different. That's awesome bang back then. So it's a little bit different.
Speaker 3:It'll just be like, and dr j with the jumper, it's like, okay, a lot of energy.
Speaker 2:It's like watching a uh, an ace baseball game or a tampa baseball game so if you ever watch super bowl one, no, the announcing in that is like the worst thing in the world. It's like, as the game's going on, and, granted, green Bay did win pretty handily, but like as it's going on, like there's just no excitement at all. It's like Bart Starr pass, and it's a touchdown too, and just whoever the guy's name was that he threw it to. And it's like what Nothing there was there, he threw it to. And it's like what Nothing there was. There was nothing. Like just Bart star through a touchdown and just nobody gave a shit. Okay, cool, they don't care. No, you didn't really pick that up till right around 1980. That's another like. Even when I watched some of the sixties finals that I watch, it'd be like and jerry west from a considerable distance, and the shot has been knocked down good shots very west.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's like that's all you have, huh. And like elgin baylor, who invented being a perimeter player, that went to the rim. Like nobody got excited about that shit and I'm like how like he was the first guy doing that like how is that not exciting? And then dr j made it better and then it took till mj was doing it for people to be like holy shit. I, I kind of want a little bit more holy shit in my sports commentary same.
Speaker 3:Yeah, you need a little bit of pizzazz and flair. I feel like that came about in like the 90s maybe yeah, no, I mean the 80s had a lot of it.
Speaker 2:I mean, if you think back, like even uh, you know the miracle on ice with the 1980 olympic team that was al michaels yelling. Do you believe in miracles? When we beat russia, like and that was 1980 and then, like, right around the same time, magic fielding for Kareem at center I think it was his rookie year, I think it was 1980. And he drains a hook shot that puts a game away and that had a lot of excitement on it. So I know it came about in the 80s. It's just like you listen to anything before then. It's like Jesus Christ, man, none of these guys cared it's just super dry, super dry like announcers.
Speaker 2:The whole point of being an announcer is that you're supposed to announce the game because you love the game. Like it would be like me, like stepping into wall street and just being like all all right, I'm going to announce how this goes. And an hour and a half in, I'd just be like and this dude sold 3,000 shares of Apple.
Speaker 3:Yeah, he made a couple billion dollars.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:I'm really excited. Oh man, colbs, we're going to go over to a really dry topic, one you don't like that much. Major League Baseball who's on top? They just had their all-star break right there.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I heard that they had an all-star break. How did that go?
Speaker 3:It went good. I don't even know who won if it was the American League or National League in the actual game, the home run derby. I can't even tell you who won the derby. Yeah, cal riley, if I'm pronouncing his name correctly. Uh, I just know his nickname is the big dumper and I saw a video of pat mcafee what's he got a big ass so he actually got interviewed and like how did you get the nickname the big dumper?
Speaker 3:because what I could think is taking a moss and you know, super, you know nasty, gnarly looking, poopy, doopy. We're keeping it rated PG Culp's. Yeah, no, that was well done, very well done, thank you. So from him, from his point of view, he says yeah, I got the nickname the Big Dumper because I got a big butt. That's what he said, not a big ass, he's got a big butt. So I guess a lot of the guys in baseball I don't know he got the nickname the Big Dumper, so they must love his booty.
Speaker 2:Generally, hit power does come from your lower body more so than your upper body. So, yeah, that that I mean it does check out. If you look at a lot of baseball players, they actually have like phenomenal asses and it's like, yeah, but same with, uh, like a. Actually a lot of football players do too. Obviously you know offensive linemen. You're looking at them and it's like, oh fatty, but like, but like you started looking at like linebackers and like corners and safeties and shit running backs. It's like holy shit, dude, these guys are like head to toe just all muscle, yeah, including your ass yeah, perfect specimen.
Speaker 3:So he ended up pulling it off, he ended up winning. I know know O'Neal Cruz in the home run derby made a lot of noise. I know Jazz Chisholm on the. Yankees made a lot of noise. Yeah, he made a lot of noise. Not in a good way, colts, because he didn't hit a lot of home runs, so people were dogging on him badly. He only got three home runs in the derby.
Speaker 2:I didn't really think of him as a home run hitter. I remember him in miami. I don't remember that being really a specialty of his. I did think it was weird when you brought him up.
Speaker 3:Yeah, well the derby's weird. Nowadays too, you get some players that aren't necessarily known as the biggest home run hitters. Uh, just because they're worried about, you know, their swing being affected if they're on all the rest of this season and everything.
Speaker 3:But I feel like when we were growing up we had the best home run derbies because we had sammy so mark wire like do you know, like a home run derby people were tuning in to see home runs and these big, huge Jack guys just launch him out of the freaking park. Ken Griffey Jr. Oh too good, too damn good.
Speaker 2:No, I was playing. Oddly enough, I was playing softball during the home run derby, so I didn't get to see it because I was ineffectively swinging a bat. Yeah, true, I had a great pitching game though, my last softball game. It was raining the entire game and for whatever reason that actually made it easier for me, I was throwing like nothing but fucking dead strikes all game.
Speaker 3:I like it. Coles, who's on top. Al East this one surprised me. I haven't been staying too close to the standings, mostly because we haven't been recording really the Blue Jays sitting on top over there, yankees number two, the red sox number three. I gotta mention the red sox, hey, because when the fuck did the blue jays get up there?
Speaker 2:what, what?
Speaker 3:oh, I know well, hey, I'll give an honorable mention to the rays too. They're not that far behind, they're above 500. There are only five and a half games back from first in the ales, but the red socks are on an absolute tear. Like an absolute tear, like I'm saying wait, so the orioles are last. The orioles are in last the fuck happened.
Speaker 2:They had a good young team oh, they did.
Speaker 3:But yeah, it's all been going downhill for the o's, all right. Their pitching kind of fell apart there for a little while. The AL Central yeah, tigers sitting on top over there. Al West Astros sitting on top. I had hopes for the Angels. They're not doing good. They're about to be overtaken by the Athletics, which really isn't good. Colts, the NL East this kind of makes me happy, but a little sad too. The Phillies are sitting on top, but the Mets are only a half game back, so they're definitely still in the hunt in the second half of the season.
Speaker 2:The Mets have a damn good team Braves are still under 500, too right, Dude the.
Speaker 3:Braves are still under 500 and they're 12 and a half games back. They're not necessarily out of it, but it's not looking great In baseball back end of season two. If you get a nagging injury, sometimes the team just shuts you down if you've got a big contract going in next year.
Speaker 2:I don't remember if Strider's playing right now or if he's still out. I know Acuna had made his way back. I am kind of curious what's going on with them right now?
Speaker 3:Yeah, I think with the braves too. They just got off of such like such a horrible start that it's hard to catch back up from that. Um, but strider is back. He, uh, is in the rotation. He's been doing all right. Uh, you know, on the season he has a 3.3 ERA and he's 2-3 In the year. 3.3 isn't necessarily terrible.
Speaker 2:No, I know it's not, but at the same time, from what I could tell, two years ago he was like a top 5 Pitcher in baseball.
Speaker 3:Yep Gobs. Nl Central Cubs sitting on top, followed, followed by the Brewers. They're right behind them. Cardinals are still in the mix and the Reds are still in the mix. Guess what the Pirates are like? Terrible, and they had so much momentum.
Speaker 2:I was literally about to ask about them because it made me think of Skeens and I'm like did they do anything with that team, or is it just Skeens and the boys?
Speaker 3:You know that just skeins and the boys it's. You know that's a good way to put it. It's mostly skeins and, uh, I guess you could throw a neil cruz into the mix there too. Uh, but I just want to point this out for paul skeins he has a 2.01 era. All right, coles, and he's four, oh yeah, and he's four and eight on the season which, considering the team that he's on, is actually impressive as hell. Yeah, that's a good point.
Speaker 2:I bet if you look at every other pitcher it's like two and whatever.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, for real. So you know he's right there, he's doing a great job. If he has a strong second half of the year, his ERA is so low, his strikeout count is great job. If he has a strong second half of the year, his ERA is so low, his strikeout count is so high. If he can get into the double-digit wins, maybe he'll be considered for Cy Young. But it's going to have to be a turnaround. On the Pirates' part it's going to be tough to do NL West Dodgers sitting on top, followed by the Padres, then the Giants.
Speaker 2:Colts. I want to mention the Giants real quick.
Speaker 3:They're still fucking there just floating in third the entire time, as if, like they might make some noise oh, they're still right there in third.
Speaker 2:It's like every single year it's like the most annoying team in sports.
Speaker 3:They just won't fuck off I know right, coles, I wanted to bring up the giants because, justin verlander, obviously you've heard the name and everything. The dude is for 42 years old.
Speaker 2:I was going to say super career resurgence. The dude went from awesome to okay we think he's done to came back and he's awesome again.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's funny that you point it out like that, because this is exactly what happened. The guy was absolutely dominant, I guess you could say, from 2006 all the way through 2017, ish, but really the highlight years are up to that 2014 mark, but then after that he had a little bit of a lull and then wham in 2018 season when he goes at the houston astros, bam 16 wins 2019 21 wins on the season. 2022 18 wins on the season. So justin verlander been strong as of late. Right past couple of seasons he was dealing with some nagging injuries. The whole mets thing went down when he got traded over there, or maybe not even traded when he was signed over there to go with max scherzer.
Speaker 2:Anyhow, uh, that was a fucking disaster the kicker wasn't. As soon as they got rid of him, he was awesome again oh, I know.
Speaker 3:So yeah, he was doing good again when he went over there, uh, with the astros afterwards after the match. So, uh, verlander, now on the giants. This is sad because he's chasing 300 wins. I want to say and I don't have the stats up right in front of my face at the moment if I could quickly find it Excellent podcast time right to do that. I want to say that he has I'm just going to guesstimate here, coles, I'm having a hard time finding his win column, but it's somewhere around the 200 and oh, here it is 262 mark. So he has 262 wins on his career. He was interviewed before and he says yeah, I think pretty strongly that I can continue playing to 45 years old, why not? You saw tom brady do it in the nfl. You see, lebron, what he's doing.
Speaker 3:Justin verlander's been an elite pitcher. He's been really good, one of the best pitchers of all time or of our generation. He has potential to hit 300 wins. So he goes into the Giants season this year thinking I'm going to pick up some wins and move a little bit closer to 300. And he's 42 years old right now. If he continues to pace, winning about 15 games a year, he's going to make it to 300 games, 300 wins. Well, colts, sitting at the halfway point in the mlb season, oh and seven is his record. This year he doesn't even have a win. And here's the bar is. You would think his era is going to be about a five, six, seven, eight, something crazy like that. Right to have no wins because the giants won some games he's probably got like a 4.03 or some shit.
Speaker 2:Scary that you say that you're kind of close, yeah.
Speaker 3:Four seven which isn't the worst, it's okay. It's okay. He got lit up in a couple of games that really inflated that, where he didn't have a ton of innings pitch in that particular game so had not been for those who would have probably been around that mark that you said right around four. But the guy deserves to win more than zero games. If he continues that pace and he goes 0 and 14 on the season I mean number one that would kind of be funny in a way, but it would be horrible because he wants to make that 300th win mark yeah, I was gonna say in all seriousness, even though that would probably dissuade me from playing until I'm 45, I also wouldn't want to retire after that, because I'm like that can't be the last thing that I do.
Speaker 2:Not a shot in hell.
Speaker 3:You know, I'm almost thinking like if I'm Justin Verlander right now. I'm asking for a trade. I'm thinking I know the giants are still kind of in the hunt, but it's just whatever it is, luck is not on your side in San Francisco. Is anybody willing to bring him on? If so, bring him on and get the guy some wins. Please Can we at least get him 10 wins this season so we can keep the hunt alive where he gets too close, where you can't retire because you're that close. But we'll see what happens. Um colbs, it's a little mlb for you, colbs. Uh, real quick before we get out of here. Nfl talk. There's been so much movement or discussions in the world of the nfl of you know what's going to happen. Who's going to be the team on top this year? The, the Pittsburgh Steelers, making a bunch of moves this season and people are high on them. They actually just agreed to a contract extension with TJ Watt. Three years, 123 million dollars is the largest contract by a non-qb position um in nfl history. So which is?
Speaker 2:crazy because that would be a top 20 contract in the nba oh, I know, I know well, yeah, yeah who knows?
Speaker 3:we're probably not far from the nfl handing out billion dollar contracts soon, so we'll see what ends up happening. It's moving over there. I think they say maybe not the saving grace, but that makes more than that yeah yeah, yeah, for real. Maybe the only reason is because the the argument would be that they don't play as many games, or but the future is.
Speaker 2:Jeremy Grant makes more than that.
Speaker 3:Yeah, what about the guy in the Lakers that you mentioned? Oh, cam Reddish. Maybe he's making more than that.
Speaker 2:No, he's only making like 2 mil.
Speaker 3:Alright, good, Good, good good 2.03, if I'm not mistaken.
Speaker 2:Believe, believe me. I'm trying to figure out a way to shift it somewhere else right nfl season is scary close, believe it or not.
Speaker 3:The first preseason game kicks off on thursday, july 31. That's two weeks from now.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean I'm not going to get amped on preseason but honestly it does give the marker of we're going to come back doing some of the content we've done in the past. Going into football seasons, I'm going to come through, I'm going to give you guys my predictions for what I think in terms of where the standings are going to lie, who are going to be the playoff teams, who's going to be out, how I think those playoffs will go. I'll give you all of that. I'll probably give you at least like a top 16 quarterback list, maybe top 10. We'll see, but I'll give you something that just generates some enthusiasm. Going into the nfl season, obviously, when we come back, we're going to be doing our, our whole thing. We're going to be bringing back sparky the coin. We're going to be picking games with each other. I'm going to be picking every single game and giving you guys the info on how that goes for me, because I fucking love doing all that shit for football.
Speaker 2:so I I think that's going to be a blast, we're going to have a lot of fun with that and we are that close to it, which is kind of funny, because usually I try to start that up right around the time the preseason starts, so you can kind of get like a month ramp up to the NFL season and, granted, we have a oh, actually shit. Yeah, we have a shorter preseason now, don't we? It's actually not a five-week thing anymore.
Speaker 2:So yeah now I guess for preseason week one, that week I'll probably dive in with I'll probably say, predictions for like right before the season starts. But I don't know, maybe we'll come back. I'm not going to do it next week, but maybe like two weeks from now I'll hit you guys with like a quarterback list or uh. Maybe we'll just talk a little bit about general findings of the offseason or teams that we might be kind of hot on. We'll do something nfl related starting up pretty soon here.
Speaker 2:I I'm still very engulfed in the nba offseason. I haven't, honestly, like there's some of the stuff that happened back in march where players moved to different teams in the NBA off season. I haven't, honestly, like there's some of the stuff that happened back in March where players move to different teams in the NFL and I have forgotten about it entirely because it's not a great time for me to be able to remember shit outside of the NBA. But I'll definitely be diving back in there Very excited for it. Nfl season is an absolute fucking blast.
Speaker 2:We I mean we had so much fun last year, john that and I I think all of our podcasts went incredibly well. We had very intelligent conversations about football which I thought were really just uplifting for me. Yeah, I know the first two years we did this, you, uh, you were taking a headline and just yelling it back at me and I'm like god damn it, john. Yeah, you've been watching football and I've been so proud of you and I'm so in love with these conversations now I got breaking news for you as well.
Speaker 3:A couple of breaking news items from the NFL side of things first, and then personal breaking news for you, nfl side of things that might sway your predictions. I doubt it. For this first one here, mike Williams announced his retirement today. So even though he was rejoining the Chargers, he said nope, not happening retiring. And the Chiefs wide receiver, rasheed Riceashi rice, was sentenced 30 days in jail. So I don't know when that time is going to begin or what, but that's yeah that's actually that's a big key.
Speaker 2:I want to know when that begins, because that he he is a massive piece of that team. Keep in mind their, their team going into last season. Right, they, they actually had a very nice build for what that offense could have been. Mahomes could have had the weapons of Rasheed Rice, who was on all paces of being a top-10 NFL wide receiver. Last year they brought in Hollywood Brown as a speed option to go along with Xavier Worthy, who had a really progressive I'll call it rookie season. It's not something I don't think xavier worthy's ever going to be a top whatever receiver in the nfl, but he's a fucking threat. So that that's somebody that you got to take seriously. He has speed, unlike the majority of guys in the nfl. They had all those pieces and then obviously travis kelsey also. So there there was a realistic shot at all of those pieces being there from Holmes and somehow it basically just became it's Kelsey and Worthy.
Speaker 2:So yeah, I'm very I don't want to make it sound the wrong way because Rishi Rice did something that deserves, by general human standards, more than 30 days. Let's be honest how the the law works in terms of athletes for human. I remember Dante Stallworth got 30 days one time for getting drunk, got behind the wheel and killed somebody and he got 30 days. So I don't mean to laugh, that's just uncomfortable. That's just what I do sometimes in those instances. Point of it being is that Rishi Rice yeah, absolutely Probably deserves more time than what he got. Point of it being for the chief season I'm still interested. That's the crutch of football. I really try to separate athlete from whatever they do in their personal life, because otherwise I wouldn't be able to enjoy anybody, because it turns out almost all of them are kind of doing shitty stuff. Yeah, don't mean to put that on a down note, but that's a. I feel like that says the right piece and the piece that I'm ultimately going to be giving.
Speaker 3:I'll end it on a good note. Okay, coles had his first experience last year with the red zone of subscribing to it. Oh yeah, I know you said that you're going to yeah, you're going, yeah, you're gonna do it again. I'm doing it again, but also colds, since I have youtube premium and doing all the dj and stuff and all that kind of that's right.
Speaker 2:You told me this on the car ride.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah I ended up subscribing to the nfl sunday ticket, so I will have access to pretty much all things NFL. So for this particular podcast, get ready for even deeper.
Speaker 2:You'll be able to yeah, you'll be able to watch your Cowboys every single Sunday, like it's just full game and granted, I guess they're on TV all the goddamn time anyway. So it's not like you're going to catch a whole lot more games, but the occasional game where they don't show it on TV, you'll uh, you can catch that. I could really use that. I'm just not spending the money for that because I do not have YouTube premium. Um, that that's not something that's feasible for me, but I would love to be able to watch every Seahawk game so I could see exactly how shitty my guys are.
Speaker 3:Hell, yeah, all right guys. Jack the King is back. Stay tuned. Another episode coming up, nfl talk coming up. Yeah, All right, catch you.